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  I wondered why I was not at ease being a Witness.

  by PinTail in

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  i wondered why i was not at ease being a witness till i learned what a cult is from many sorces, and stopped being so scared from day to day what god will do to me.

  i am still scared of what he will do to me from being raised a witness, its weird they did not teach a firey hell, but they put the same kind of fear in me.

  everytime some national problem comes along i freek, even when i no longer go to them meetings or read the tower.

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  Undaunted Danny

  Welcome 'proud goat' I NEVER believed that i ( or anyone else) had 'Jehovah's spirit' in the door to door recruiting zeal.

  This put me on a wicked guilt trip for 33+ years.I also had a brutal time of persecution in school 1963-1971

  http://www.lawfulmoney.com/nlm/_discjw/00000003.htm
  
  
  
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  Your worst Watchtower Study ever?

  by Celtic in

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  what article was it when you were a witness that was the most complicated for you to understand?

  i remember that there were a right few beaut's, dad being the wt conductor, of course we had to go through the finer detail getting to the most indepth meaning and how it linked up.

  hmmmmmmm.. what was your worst watchtower study ever then?

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  Undaunted Danny

  Heeeee Haaaaw,ride em cowboy;

  KEEP PACE WITH JEHOVAH'S CELESTIAL CHARIOT

  Circa 1991 primary Watchtower study Rockland Massachusetts. I remember the Watchtower lesson well.The $ociety's interpretation/take on the highly symbolic prophecy of Ezekiel chapter one.The visiting guest elder from the Hingham Massachusetts Kingdom Hall,commented on how,"Jehovah's 'wheels' looked like something outta star trex".How reverential,to compare sacred writings to science fiction.

  The lesson to be had was that ,"Jehovah's visible organization makes' changes' at 'light speed.So we need to faithfully,"...keep pace with Jehovah's celestial chariot".Be warned, there is no,'trailer hitch',on Jehovah,s buggy.( his comment)

  Hebrews 13:8-9 clearly states in any Bible:"..Jesus Christ is the same yesterday,today and forever,DO NOT BE CARRIED AWAY WITH VARIOUS AND STRANGE TEACHINGS..".

  How truly blasphemous for the Watchtower to impute Almighty God's 'navigation', to their shifting 'progressive' flip flops,and that the WT$ is in the driver's seat. Critical 'apostate' pages like your's truly,are effecting changes in the WT$'s policies and practices.I have no objective to change them.You can not reform a a deadly cult that is, ROTTEN TO THE CORE!( Eccl 1;15 )

  Throw the bums out!
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  In the aftermath of our shattered faith, for those who also wonder.....

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  it's been over 12 yrs since my df'ing.

  yes, i forced 'em to do it for what i know now were pointless reasons....but mainly, at the time, i thought it was because the heirarchy of the wts doesn't measure up to scriptural standards....i wasn't wrong for they are very judgmental hate-mongers, manipulative and overbearing....but i've come to learn so much more..... .

  after years of traumatic disillusionment, i've begun to wonder if there really is a god/goddess, etc....or is this a state of mind/belief system that mankind has created to explain the inexplicable, answer the unanswerable, to put a spiritual bandaid on the tortured in mind, body and/or spirit.....and yet, tho our bodies wear out eventually, we are wonderfully "made"....and so many things here on earth are sympatico with our human existence and temperament.....yet....at the same time, we have adverse reactions to many things, too, whether vegetable, animal, mineral or even spiritual.....is this all only a contrivance of our imaginings, the result of our teachings among ourselves?.

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  The quintessential question of the ages:Are we made in God's Image.OR did we make God in our Image? The parting shot of My DFing JC was this script.{ I'm sure it's "aop" canned } Applied to mean I am eternally damned and now mad with envy,having been booted out as a dub. [King James]Hebrews 10 26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [and a big bronk cheer to that]
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  Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  i knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".

  many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!

  what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???

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  Undaunted Danny

  <Click my profile/bio it's all there.
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  In the aftermath of our shattered faith, for those who also wonder.....

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  it's been over 12 yrs since my df'ing.

  yes, i forced 'em to do it for what i know now were pointless reasons....but mainly, at the time, i thought it was because the heirarchy of the wts doesn't measure up to scriptural standards....i wasn't wrong for they are very judgmental hate-mongers, manipulative and overbearing....but i've come to learn so much more..... .

  after years of traumatic disillusionment, i've begun to wonder if there really is a god/goddess, etc....or is this a state of mind/belief system that mankind has created to explain the inexplicable, answer the unanswerable, to put a spiritual bandaid on the tortured in mind, body and/or spirit.....and yet, tho our bodies wear out eventually, we are wonderfully "made"....and so many things here on earth are sympatico with our human existence and temperament.....yet....at the same time, we have adverse reactions to many things, too, whether vegetable, animal, mineral or even spiritual.....is this all only a contrivance of our imaginings, the result of our teachings among ourselves?.

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  Undaunted Danny

  I was a straight A student my few meager years of schooling.I am a smart guy who memorized over 2,000 scripts and am a really deep thinker.

  The anguish and the agony of having to renounce the life-long convictions of my heart.The surreal horror to accept that it's all a Watchtower lie.

  Results: I don't have a clue as to the God thing.

  What happens when I die?I will go back to what I was before I my moment of conception,I DIDN'T EXIST.

  I have no fear of God to keep me in line,yet i am an honorable benevolent humanitarian because that is what I choose to be.

  My greatest joy would be to find proof of a supreme benevolent deity and life after death.

  Hello! I am waiting,and I guess I just wrote my own eulogy.Hey,thanks for this topic.

  Undaunted Danny www.DannyHaszard.com
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  What Flip-Flop teachings/beliefs do you think will come back?

  by JH in

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  often the jw taught something, and came back a few years later to teach just the opposite.

  example: will the men of sodom be resurrected?.

  http://www.cftf.com/comments/blinking.html.

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  Repeal the 1990 [D.C.] ban on baby making.
  
  
  
  
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  I Have Finally Sent My DA-Letter

  by GermanXJW in

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  i finally did it!

  after 3-4 years of being inactive i wrote a da-letter and faxed it to the headquarters of the "christian congregation".

  i am planning to be more active in helping ex-jw and i have become a member of the newly founded "netzwerk sektenausstieg" (cult exit network) in germany.

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  Undaunted Danny

  Good to go bravo mate.

  God hates a coward.{Rev.21:8}
  
  
  
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  Adultery, Forgiveness & Divorce-----WATCHTOWER STYLE

  by minimus in

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  i wonder how many have been affected by the watchtower's interpretation of these things.

  i know of many many jws that "live together" only because they are married to each other.

  these people almost hate each other, but would never leave their marriages and get an "unscriptural" divorce.....i know of wives that "forgave" their husbands "unknowingly".

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  Undaunted Danny

  My condolences Sassy for your hardships.
  
  
  My experiences are,'can't win for losing'.I stayed single and chaste,never fooled around and never broke a sweet sister's heart.

  All the dubs did is get jealous of my singledom and chasity.{He must be a candy-assed geek}
  
  
  
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  I am a sociopath - WT Society's fault???

  by Confucious in

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  although not professionally diagnosed, i feel like i'm a sociopath.

  someone told me the definition of one (and it is complex) and i feel i fit the mold - although not 100 percent.

  there are some things that i don't match the definition of.

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  Undaunted Danny

  More on 'theory of mind' with small children.We all have witnessed this but may have never grasped the concept.

  [ I find it absolutely fasinating ]

  Illustration:If we play a variation of the 'shell game' with 3y.o.,sally,danny and auntie kathie.

  We 3 are in the room we put uncle danny's candy under one of 4 cups.

  Danny leaves the room,and auntie kathie spins the cups and changes the spot for danny's candy.

  Danny returns,the child is asked;"now where should uncle danny look for his candy.

  The child will point to the last spot when i was last in the room before the switch.

  Three year old Sally doesn't grasp the concept that we all have independent and seperate minds.

  She thinks that all people in the world think with one mind(her's).

  Because of this she doesn't know that she can manipulate others,because she hasn't developed "theory of mind" yet.Usually they don't grasp this until about 4 years of age.

  Sad to say,at this point they now can "sin" by manipulating others.

  This may be what Jesus meant by;"becoming like young children" in the sense of innocence and unpretentious and not putting on airs.

  I have always prayed to be able to emulate this attribute.In fact I am brutally honest,but it's more of me not giving a hoot about pleasing people and then taking any credit for goodie two shoes self-righteousness.
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  WT expansion and enslavement of the 3rd world...

  by cyber-sista in

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  2. bible

  as some of you know i still receive some of those dopey jw forwards from those who are trying to encourage me to come back to the organization.

  this recent one i received was a bit more informative as to the workings of the organization.

  i don't think this sister knows who passed this one on to her and i'm sure it wasn't meant to go out over the whole internet.

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  Undaunted Danny

  Good point sis> Imagine if I was in a poverty stricken land and on top of my bad living condition I was thrown out of the Org for one reason or another and lost all my friends and connections and support group. Now that would be really rough. I feel for these people, as they are especially vunerable